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Lets just get this out of the way...

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 10:49 pm
by Hollow
The n-bomb isn't going to be okay on this forum, ever. I'm not particularly fond of the f-bomb, or using "gay" as an insult. I will start by editing posts, if it continues you'll get a PM you and give you a warning, and finally I'll end by banning. Just gonna give a heads up because I want people to know where I'm coming from. Feel free to bitch and moan about this as much as possible. I'll still do it.

Yeah, I guess I'm a PC douchebag.

-Willa

Re: Lets just get this out of the way...

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 10:57 pm
by age of quarrel
have people started dropping n bombs on here or is this pre emptive? i really hope its pre emptive because i like to think of pretty well everyone involved with vihc as better than spouting off homophobic and racist rhetoric.
maybe there needs to be a stickied thread of basic forum rules people need to abide by

Re: Lets just get this out of the way...

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 11:02 pm
by graveyardstomp
stern but fair.

Re: Lets just get this out of the way...

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 11:04 pm
by Hollow
No ones done it seriously, but there have been some "ironic" moments. I in no way shape or form think that the people who did this were racist or homophobic, I just want them to know that we're trying to create something that's open to everyone, and that means not using that sort of language.

SO, kinda pre-emptive, kinda already happened.

Re: Lets just get this out of the way...

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 11:27 pm
by age of quarrel
Willa, i love you. come visit the royal city!

Re: Lets just get this out of the way...

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 11:42 pm
by Hollow
Planning on it, dude. Meg and I wanna take a weekend and just get to Van for a bit. I think we need to get off the island, it's destroying Meg's brain.

Re: Lets just get this out of the way...

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 11:50 pm
by keith.
you make more gay jokes than anyone i know lol

Re: Lets just get this out of the way...

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 11:52 pm
by Hollow
keith. wrote:you make more gay jokes than anyone i know lol
Context, good sir. Context. I never use the word "gay" in a derogatory fashion, and I never drop the f-bomb. Yeah, I make gay jokes, but they're in the context of being on the inside of that culture. It's a little different.

Re: Lets just get this out of the way...

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 12:00 am
by Andrew
Man, you tryin' to deny a gangsta their favor?

Re: Lets just get this out of the way...

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 12:01 am
by KYLESTYLE
we CAN post music videos with people getting shot and songs called 'wife beater' because it's ironic, right?

Re: Lets just get this out of the way...

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 1:04 am
by Hollow
Yeah. I know there's gonna be some double standards, I won't even try and pretend there won't be. I'm just gonna do my best to not let it get out of hand, and I think this is one way of doing that.

Re: Lets just get this out of the way...

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 2:17 am
by ZACH ATTACK
Okay, so just a to clear some things up, the reason these rules are in place, in addition to such terms being generally abhorant, it's the madate of the VIHC society to create open and inclusive spaces, including internet message boards. It would be really horrible to have all our hard work and everything we've accopmlished, not just as a society but as a community in general, come undone because somebody wanted to be ironic and edgy. I think this definetly warrents further discussion and serves as a great base for certain rules and protocol but I also don't think that this should be the be all and end all. As a community I think we do an excellent job of policing ourselves, but I also think it can't hurt to keep all our bases covered. So yeah, good idea, has few kinks to work out.

Re: Lets just get this out of the way...

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 3:54 am
by grind/bro
Thread sucks

Re: Lets just get this out of the way...

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 11:20 am
by Tambro
Worst. President. Ever.

Re: Lets just get this out of the way...

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 11:34 am
by Hollow
Tambro wrote:Worst. President. Ever.

HA.

Okay, so yeah after talking it over with Zach, he convinced me I'm being heavy-handed. Totally right. So let me just say I'll be using context as my guide. There's a huge difference between you guys giving me shit for being Jewish, for example, and someone blatantly using a racist/homophobic term. Sorry for coming across like a dick, that was definitely not what I meant to do. Don't worry, you guys do not have to walk on eggshells around here, if you do something that is considered out of line, I'll do my best to keep it a private matter from now on. However, if you do something out of line, I will be responding to it, and that's really all I wanted to say with this.

THATS IT. SORRY.

Re: Lets just get this out of the way...

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 11:40 am
by Tambro
Best. President. Ever.

:P

Re: Lets just get this out of the way...

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 11:55 am
by Hollow
8-)

Re: Lets just get this out of the way...

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 12:31 pm
by Andrew
Hollow wrote: Okay, so yeah after talking it over with Zach, he convinced me I'm being heavy-handed. Totally right. So let me just say I'll be using context as my guide. There's a huge difference between you guys giving me shit for being Jewish, for example, and someone blatantly using a racist/homophobic term. Sorry for coming across like a dick, that was definitely not what I meant to do. Don't worry, you guys do not have to walk on eggshells around here, if you do something that is considered out of line, I'll do my best to keep it a private matter from now on. However, if you do something out of line, I will be responding to it, and that's really all I wanted to say with this.

THATS IT. SORRY.
I preferred your original vision of ruling with the crushing hammer of PC righteousness. Now I'm all alone at the PC douchebag table. :(

Re: Lets just get this out of the way...

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 12:32 pm
by tylerp
I like Willa as a moderator

Re: Lets just get this out of the way...

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 12:41 pm
by Andrew
tylerp wrote:I like Willa as a moderator
This.