VIHC musical gear discussion thread

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are certain brands of cabs better for handling high treble than others? what should i look for in a 4x12 guitar cab anyway? what makes a good cab?

I think its mostly the wood used and the speakers you have in it. why do you want a cab thats better for handling high treble?

i generally play with fairly high treble and i've found that i few cabs i've played through make it sound really tinny, even if i try to adjust mids to compensate on my head.

does anyone know any affordable brands that'd still sound decent or would i have more luck trawling craigslist for second hand ones. my budget is under 500, i know its pretty unrealistic but i still have to pay rent

thanks everyone

what are you using for a rig right now. every piece.

[Andrew]

Hey Andrew the bass player from the jay leno show has the same head as you.

That's why we both have that smooth soft jazz tone.

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are certain brands of cabs better for handling high treble than others? what should i look for in a 4x12 guitar cab anyway? what makes a good cab?

I think its mostly the wood used and the speakers you have in it. why do you want a cab thats better for handling high treble?

i generally play with fairly high treble and i've found that i few cabs i've played through make it sound really tinny, even if i try to adjust mids to compensate on my head.

does anyone know any affordable brands that'd still sound decent or would i have more luck trawling craigslist for second hand ones. my budget is under 500, i know its pretty unrealistic but i still have to pay rent

thanks everyone

what are you using for a rig right now. every piece.

long & mcquade cables, squier telecaster custom, peavy musician amphead (circa 1974-7), boss tremolo pedal and boss metal zone pedal (slick equalizer)

[Andrew]

squier telecaster custom

Is this new?

[stumped.]

squier telecaster custom

Is this new?

the guitar itself is new, i just got it in august. i'm not sure if its a new release by the manufactuer though.

[Andrew]

Jakob, did you wish for a brighter tone when you recorded, or was that rig giving you enough treble?

[Andrew]

squier telecaster custom

Is this new?

the guitar itself is new, i just got it in august. i'm not sure if its a new release by the manufactuer though.

Yeah, I meant new to you. I remember you saying you wanted to get a telecaster.

[stumped.]

squier telecaster custom

Is this new?

the guitar itself is new, i just got it in august. i'm not sure if its a new release by the manufactuer though.

Yeah, I meant new to you. I remember you saying you wanted to get a telecaster.

oh hahaha. yeah i'm really enjoying playing it so far, the pickups are really nice for such a cheap guitar. when i make some extra cash i think i'm going to upgrade though.

the rig we had for the demos sounded great while i was playing it, but i think it got a little lost in the mix. not a big deal thought, given the circumstances i think the demos turned out great

[Andrew]

the rig we had for the demos sounded great while i was playing it, but i think it got a little lost in the mix. not a big deal thought, given the circumstances i think the demos turned out great

If you were getting enough high end from that rig it was a Marshall jcm800 4x12 cab, which you should be able to find used for under $500 no problem.

[stumped.]

the rig we had for the demos sounded great while i was playing it, but i think it got a little lost in the mix. not a big deal thought, given the circumstances i think the demos turned out great

If you were getting enough high end from that rig it was a Marshall jcm800 4x12 cab, which you should be able to find used for under $500 no problem.

oh awsome, thanks alot man!

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are certain brands of cabs better for handling high treble than others? what should i look for in a 4x12 guitar cab anyway? what makes a good cab?

I think its mostly the wood used and the speakers you have in it. why do you want a cab thats better for handling high treble?

i generally play with fairly high treble and i've found that i few cabs i've played through make it sound really tinny, even if i try to adjust mids to compensate on my head.

does anyone know any affordable brands that'd still sound decent or would i have more luck trawling craigslist for second hand ones. my budget is under 500, i know its pretty unrealistic but i still have to pay rent

thanks everyone

what are you using for a rig right now. every piece.

long & mcquade cables, squier telecaster custom, peavy musician amphead (circa 1974-7), boss tremolo pedal and boss metal zone pedal (slick equalizer)

so you don't have a cab at all? peavey cabs are cheap and good. marshall cabs are cheap used and good. do yourself a favor and ditch the metalzone. it is the anti-tone.

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so you don't have a cab at all? peavey cabs are cheap and good. marshall cabs are cheap used and good. do yourself a favor and ditch the metalzone. it is the anti-tone.

thanks for the tip man, alot of people have asked if i was selling it, maybe i can catch a few bucks for it.
yeah so far i've just bummed cabs off of other bands every time i've played a show. i'm lucky they've all been chill about it

[Andrew]

do yourself a favor and ditch the metalzone. it is the anti-tone.

thanks for the tip man, alot of people have asked if i was selling it, maybe i can catch a few bucks for it.

I dunno, if you're getting a sound you like out of any piece of gear then it has value.

[tylerp]

I feel as though the metal zone may be contributing more to the tinny-ness than anything else. but if you've gotten -THAT SOUND- you love through your current rig and a certain cab, no point in ditching anything.

andrew, I've been troubleshooting my bass rig a little. I looked into common speaker problems and symptoms. I even had some correspondence with another acoustic 370 head owner. and tried it (I know, I know) through all my cabs in various iterations. I've decided that the speakers in my 406 cab are totally just fine, just possibly a little low on the sensitivity/W rating. they don't seem to have any problems with the voice coils and don't need reconing. I tried the cab in combination with a 4x12 just to see how it'd sound and I've determined that the head just likes to distort at about 9:00 on the dial and it makes any given cab sound like its speakers are providing some natural speaker distortion. I suppose that since the 406 cab has a rather low wattage rating and sensitivity, it gives the illusion of "less sound" when this distortion happens. it sounds really cool, I was just worried about it, you know?

on that topic and the bass discussion topic, I sort of wish I had one of those sansamp bass drivers and a power amp. that way I could back off the growl if I wanted, you know? I could probably sell off my rig and get a similar sansamp and have a lot more control over everything. but I do like the acoustic stack's sound and look and everything. and there's no reason that I should own two bass rigs since bass isn't even my primary or secondary instrument, I've just been really into playing it a lot lately. and I think I'm jamming in a newish hardcore band on bass now.

[Andrew]

on that topic and the bass discussion topic, I sort of wish I had one of those sansamp bass drivers and a power amp. that way I could back off the growl if I wanted, you know? I could probably sell off my rig and get a similar sansamp and have a lot more control over everything. but I do like the acoustic stack's sound and look and everything. and there's no reason that I should own two bass rigs since bass isn't even my primary or secondary instrument, I've just been really into playing it a lot lately. and I think I'm jamming in a newish hardcore band on bass now.

Unless you want more than 1,000 watts my first recommendation on the pre/poweramp idea would be a G-K 1001RB head as a poweramp. Few big bass amp manufacturers make a power section as nice as G-K in my opinion. They're affordable, sound good and the volume to weight ratio on it is very good. Many companies measure their wattage ratings in bs ways to give their amps higher watt ratings. That's why you'll often see people talk about "british watts" being louder. The reason for this is they use a more accurate standard for rating in the UK, not because they build their amps better or louder per se. G-K are also a company that uses accurate power rating on their amps. That's why you see an old 300 watt 800RB keeping up with or being louder than many of the 300-700 watt rated SWR, Eden, etc, modern bass amps.

The Sansamp is a great option for cost and accessibility. They're easy to find new and used, can often be had for cheap, are generally well built and (imo) sound good. But there are lots of other rackmount preamp options out there if the sansamp isn't the sound you're after.

You might want to have your Acoustic amp looked at Tyler, it seems to be breaking up a bit early on the volume knob. And if you're interested in Sansamps I recommend you look at the RPM pedal over the RBI. As I mentioned to Tambro, I personally prefer the RPM to the RBI, but for you the RPM is made to be used on most anything, so you might find it useful for both bass and guitar.

The next time No Eulogy/Victim's Choice play a show with Promises you bass peeps should combine your rigs and run that Traynor TS50B as a preamp only and line out into the G-K 1001RB for power. The Traynor TS50B is the amp Bob Weston uses in Shellac to get what I think is a killer bass tone. He runs it as a preamp into another poweramp. That's actually what's inside that giant roadcase head you see him use in Shellac. You can get a pedal version of the TS50B's preamp now from a company called Tronographic. The pedal's called the Rusty Box. Check it out if you like that tone.

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if you end up selling that acoustic bass rig, you should talk to the bass player from mendozza, he loves those amps and has expressed interest in finding another one.

[stumped.]

I feel as though the metal zone may be contributing more to the tinny-ness than anything else. but if you've gotten -THAT SOUND- you love through your current rig and a certain cab, no point in ditching anything.

i wasn't using the metal zone when we recorded... haha

[reece]

MEGABELL RIDE!!!!

[SewnFlesh]

i think the combination of a metal zone and a telecaster is a dangerous one.. the pickups in my tele are very trebley.. i can't imagine what it would sound like with the added high end sizzle of a metal zone.

[stumped.]

i think the combination of a metal zone and a telecaster is a dangerous one.. the pickups in my tele are very trebley.. i can't imagine what it would sound like with the added high end sizzle of a metal zone.

does yours have single coil pickups? mine has humbuckers so its a lot less harsh